Originally by: Bronson Hughes

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I'm going to regret this, but here goes.

1. For all I care, take all of the hardpoints off of all the heavy 'dictors. They're not supposed to do damage, they're supposed to be an incredibly tough tackling beast. I don't care if I can only fit middle tier guns on them. To me, whatever guns I can fit are just icing on the already over-tanked cake.

2. If you are going into a fight to tackle a Titan, chances are you know how many and what kind(s) of Titan(s) to expect. Tanking to match your target's Doomsday Device is common sense, so is keeping back a HIC to tackle a Titan that hasn't shown up yet.

3. If you plan on using a heavy 'dictor for something other than tackling a super-capital ship, your tank doesn't need to be nearly as strong so you can end up fitting the bigger guns you so desperately need.

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Originally by: Vanderie

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No, Heavy Pulse Lasers are NOT the standard for medium lasers. Those ONLY go on high DPS ships, which the Devoter is not and was never intended to be.

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Originally by: Vanderie

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Originally by: Lyria Skydancer

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Originally by: Vanderie

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No, Heavy Pulse Lasers are NOT the standard for medium lasers. Those ONLY go on high DPS ships, which the Devoter is not and was never intended to be.

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But dont forget to compare the loss of dps for downgrading with for example minmatar counterparts. How about ccp boosted focused pulse a bit yea?

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I agree, Focused Pulses need to be boosted slightly. My point was simply that the Devoter was not intended to be ZOMGDPS, and I think a sacrifice in damage is acceptable with the kind of tank you get on this thing.

-Vanderie

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Originally by: HowlinMad Murdock

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Edited by: HowlinMad Murdock on 10/01/2008 06:21:54
as far as focused verses pulse or whatever (not amarr obviously) its the same issue as every race in this game has, there is no weapon that does awesome DPS without some sort of penalty. whether it be range/fitting/damage type/whatever there will be a trade off because thats how they have made it. its not something that needs to be nerfed or boosted, its just how the game has been made. f'in deal with it

as far as this whole thread... well i always like the saying " arguing on the internet is like running a race in the special olympics, even if you win your still ********"

which arguing with ol' jonny jojo is getting nowhere because he is just going to continue his trolling ways and you guys aren't going to convince him that he's a brainless twit, so continuing to banter with him gets everyone nowhere... with that said i've actually enjoyed the back and forth is just funny, made me laugh.

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Originally by: Thuranni

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Originally by: Jonny JoJo

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Edited by: Jonny JoJo on 10/01/2008 01:18:01
Ok Heavy interdictor needs MWD to keep targets in range, otherwise anything it bubbles or scrams will just MWD away.

It needs a reasonable tank and it needs to be able to take advantage of its damage bonus.

However it SEVERLY lacks grid. Other races have OMG WTF Tank and nano etc but as usualy, Amarr totally got bent over.

So can anyone name a "SENSIBE" Mwd setup for this ship? Is there even such a thing? The only way people can fit this ship is by using civillian guns on it.

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How can you take such good material (16 pictures of CCP staff in amusing situations) and create such unfunny signatures? It boggles the mind.

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Originally by: Cpt Branko

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Originally by: Jonny JoJo

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I dont need to say FMP's suck. We all know they do. Its like using Heavy assaults on raven,

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It is.

Heavy assaults are cruiser-sized weapons, Raven is a BS-sized ship.

FMPs are cruiser-sized weapons, that feel like frig-sized weapons when shooting eanm+dc tanks.

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Originally by: Skeiron

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What if you get your extra turret hardslot eh?
Then you'll complain only the more that it is not possible to fit good tank + mwd and 5 turrets, therefore they want grid increases.

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Originally by: Cpt Branko

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Edited by: Cpt Branko on 11/01/2008 18:53:51
Edited by: Cpt Branko on 11/01/2008 18:52:30

Originally by: Lyria Skydancer

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Originally by: Skeiron

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What if you get your extra turret hardslot eh?
Then you'll complain only the more that it is not possible to fit good tank + mwd and 5 turrets, therefore they want grid increases.

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And we wouldnt want that, would we? Because that would prove the ridicilous fitting requiremnts for lasers.

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With one more turret slot, you could still fit five guns preety easy (with plenty of grid to spare) with a dual MAR + MWD + cap injector + interdiction module + 800mm RT plate. I don't think you know what you're talking about.

It does not, in fact, require AWU at all.

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Originally by: Jonny JoJo

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Edited by: Jonny JoJo on 11/01/2008 23:12:15

Originally by: General Coochie

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Seriously man maybe you should consider training for another race as amarr doesnt seem to suit you.

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You do relise the irony in your comments, since if nobody complained when Amarr used to be overpowered, then we would all be flying Amarr just now, and you would be telling some Gallente to consider training for Amarr insted of the other way around

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Originally by: The Djego

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Originally by: Jonny JoJo

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Edited by: Jonny JoJo on 12/01/2008 02:44:22

Originally by: The Djego

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Originally by: Jonny JoJo

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Originally by: The Djego

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A little Hint Amarr PVP Spec comes with the natural Ability to overheat and Tank hardcore.

Actualy I was inspired to start Amarr after Cowns Vids and a Frind of mine that only flys Amarr Ships and beating me into the ground. I remember a nice chat a while ago. Basicly Amarr are uber because nobody realy know what they can do. This is thrue everytime you engage a Amarr Ship you underate its ability and this lead to fast death if you meat a serious Amarr Player.

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Cown fights clowns.

All cown's pvp is sitting on a gate or station and watching idiot people orbit him like npc in web range. This means he can use dual cap booster and plate buffer and does not need MWD. Thats basically his vids summed up. Station hugging and docking when in danger to repair is not exactly Amarr pvp at its best.

Amarr suck at "dogfighting" style pvp. Cown does not dogfight - he just sits on docking range and kills anyone silly enough to attack him npc style. Most of his kills are npcers as well.

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It is not funy. A Player that uses his own advantage to overcome a enemy in battle is smart. You are complining about things that Amarr can¦t do. Not because you are not seeing that Amarr have advantages in other aspects but because you like to troll on Forums.

Cown is a big Name if it comes down to Amarr PVP because of his Actions. Not because of Forumtrolling. I respect him aswell I respect Frinds that realy own with Amarr Ships. The only thing I don¦t respect are people like you that only big on Forums without any in game contend and using Trolling Alts.

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Sitting in docking range killing anything silly enough to attack in a npc setup a dual capbooster abaddon who is ready to redock as soon as any danger happens is not exactly "big name pvp". I mean, a moros can do that as well even better

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Again you owned yourself by calling a Dual Cap Booster Setup NPC. BTW a Morus can¦t (oh wait this was was your the Moros is overpowert Thread). Actualy I can simply kill the Drones. Cown is far over you simply becaue he know what to do with a Amarr Ship!

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Originally by: Galen Silas

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Jonny JoJo, instead of ranting on the forums and bithin about every post why don't you try and figure something out, all races get shanked in some way, I am Gallente I know, and being cross trained for Amarr i can see there flaws as well. But with all these posts it seems you spend more time on the forums than actually finding a solution in the game. Every problem in EVE has a way around it may seem very non-conventional but it works.

Also from the sounds of this you seem to want a ship thats nearly impervious to everything, ain't gonna happen. I know people as well who fly Devoters and they haven't had any problems with tanks and being able to hold there own ground.

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Originally by: arbalesttom

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Would you PLEASE stop bumping this thread? It deserves to get locked or just let it drown away, if you keep bumping this you keep feeding Johnny's trolling.

Please

Do not reply anymore on this thread, let it die.

Ktnxbai

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